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Life is Suffering

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4 years 6 months ago - 3 years 5 months ago #125671 by Thinker2
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Life is Suffering

Buddha is quoted as saying; “Life is suffering”. I interpret this to mean; people crash into reality (crashing into reality causes suffering), and then they complain that reality is not right. They keep crashing into reality, until they realize; it is not the role of reality to conform to their idea of what is right; it is the role of the individual to conform to reality. This is the Law of Karma (The Law of cause and effect) - "As you sow, so shall you reap."

Please continue to suffer, or not, as you choose.

See your choices, or not, as you please.

Choice is your true freedom.

Choice is acquired by accepting Personal Responsibility .


Have you come to this Forum to teach or learn?

You are the New Student

The Tao of Kung Fu #1 - Fear is the only darkness



(Do not assume that because a man can not spell, he can not think.)

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Don\'t FIX anything, Wake-Up, Grow-Up, and Energize Peace!
1. Wake-Up: Recognize the deception; discover your contribution
2. Grow-Up: Be responsible; stop deceiving yourself and others
3. Energize Peace: Apply your energy to loving and peaceful pursuits

Everything is FIXED by virtue of Waking-Up!
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4 years 6 months ago - 3 years 6 months ago #125672 by Thinker2
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Would you ask the ocean waves to stop crashing onto the rocks?

Then why ask a freeman to stop crashing onto tyranny?

This is Karma; this is the Law of Life.


(I did not say who is free or tyranny, so please do not ass.u.me.)

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Don\'t FIX anything, Wake-Up, Grow-Up, and Energize Peace!
1. Wake-Up: Recognize the deception; discover your contribution
2. Grow-Up: Be responsible; stop deceiving yourself and others
3. Energize Peace: Apply your energy to loving and peaceful pursuits

Everything is FIXED by virtue of Waking-Up!
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4 years 6 months ago - 3 years 5 months ago #125673 by Thinker2
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It is our suffering, complaining, and ideas which need to be abandoned, not the crashing or reality.

Suffering, Complaining, and Ideas are abandoned with the mind.

Crashing and Reality are abandoned with suicide.


Choose!


The Tao of Kung Fu - "Peace is prized above victory."



If students of Tao (Way) had discovered how to avoid crashing; they would not study Martial Arts.

This Forum is a battlefield of ideas; no one will be seriously injured...

...Unless they injure them self.

"It is the hardness of our own heart that causes the injury." - Tony DeMello

All injuries from this Forum are self inflicted.

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Don\'t FIX anything, Wake-Up, Grow-Up, and Energize Peace!
1. Wake-Up: Recognize the deception; discover your contribution
2. Grow-Up: Be responsible; stop deceiving yourself and others
3. Energize Peace: Apply your energy to loving and peaceful pursuits

Everything is FIXED by virtue of Waking-Up!
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4 years 5 months ago - 4 years 4 months ago #127597 by Thinker2
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“Karma” and “Thank you” on WFS Forum

I’m not here for a popularity contest, and I believe there are more users here apposed to the WFS than are in favor of it.

“Truth cannot be destroyed; it can only be buried in manure (BS).” – Unknown (me?)

Receiving + Karma is great; I assume someone sees value in my words.

Receiving – Karma is even better; hopefully I have smashed a delusion or two.


Please feel free to smash my delusions, respectfuly & on-topic.


Until then; Dream on...

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Don\'t FIX anything, Wake-Up, Grow-Up, and Energize Peace!
1. Wake-Up: Recognize the deception; discover your contribution
2. Grow-Up: Be responsible; stop deceiving yourself and others
3. Energize Peace: Apply your energy to loving and peaceful pursuits

Everything is FIXED by virtue of Waking-Up!
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3 years 10 months ago - 2 years 1 month ago #133990 by Thinker2
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Prove it!

I for one have no expectation of the Criminals making a full confession and public statement,. Therefore my conclusions are reached by a preponderance of the evidence I find. Most people particularly skeptics and debunkers are too lazy or intimidated to rack their brain to solve the riddle they are presented with.

I can take the approach everyone is lying until they prove otherwise, or I can trust people are speaking what they believe until I find evidence to the contrary.

Let’s say I claim to have a nose on my face. You demand proof of a nose. So I post a photo of my nose. Can you verify it is my nose? (No) So no proof has been provided I have a nose. (pointless)

If you need proof of any claim, please be my guest and search for what will satisfy you, obviously I am not satisfactory to some peoples standards and nothing I say or do can ever satisfy anyone who refuses to be satisfied. I do not come to this Forum to be toyed with by Trolls, Debunkers, or Skeptics. Nothing I write is intended to deceive.

I have been told a Court and the Legal System are "Advertorial", but until now did not completely comprehend the necessity for this.

I now see it is pointless to claim someone is wrong, and demand proof of claim. In effect asking them to prove them self wrong. They have already posted their position. (They will NOT do it! - They can NOT do it! - They can not prove the position of their accuser. - They can not prove a "Negative" assuming their accuser is correct.)

It is therefore the obligation / duty / responsibility of their adversary to prove the "Positive" and reveal the TRUTH of the matter. Anything less is a Pissing Contest. (pointless)

Demanding "PROOF" of your adversary is stupid (lazy and incompetent) Trolling!

There is no PROOF of logic! You either get the logic of it, or you don't.



Please feel free to post proof to the contrary; after all if you are correct and I am in error there should be proof of your position to demonstrate my error.

My apologies to the adults who read this, but some of the users here are childish.


peace

Don\'t FIX anything, Wake-Up, Grow-Up, and Energize Peace!
1. Wake-Up: Recognize the deception; discover your contribution
2. Grow-Up: Be responsible; stop deceiving yourself and others
3. Energize Peace: Apply your energy to loving and peaceful pursuits

Everything is FIXED by virtue of Waking-Up!
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3 years 8 months ago - 3 years 1 month ago #134490 by Thinker2
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THE VIRUS OF TRUTH

A single person can not change the world, but a single virus can.

Just spread it, so the system will be forced to change. A system that has us all caught up, and no matter whether you are rich or poor, we will always be part of the system. So introducing the virus of truth can truly make this World become something better, something beautiful and which is worth living in.

To spread the truth one must know the truth, and if you don't know the truth; what are you spreading? (Exactly; please stop that.)


"I got a great education; it took me years to get rid of it." - Tony DeMello

Education

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Don\'t FIX anything, Wake-Up, Grow-Up, and Energize Peace!
1. Wake-Up: Recognize the deception; discover your contribution
2. Grow-Up: Be responsible; stop deceiving yourself and others
3. Energize Peace: Apply your energy to loving and peaceful pursuits

Everything is FIXED by virtue of Waking-Up!
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3 years 6 months ago - 3 years 1 month ago #136343 by Thinker2
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“When you tell the truth; you piss everyone off!” – Bill Cooper


What makes Bill's statement true?

People are in one of three groups; Deceivers, Deceived, or Truth Seekers.

The Deceivers are “pissed off” because the “truth” will expose their fraud, congame, source of income, and potently destroy their racket.

The Deceived are “pissed off” because the “truth” will expose their gullibility, their beliefs are false, they have been had (punked).

The Truth Seekers are “pissed off” because the Deceivers and Deceived attack the messenger for telling the truth, rather than accepting responsibility and changing (repenting).

Those who attack truth are wittingly or unwittingly embracing darkness (evil). To embrace the light (good) we must embrace the truth (the light of awareness).


"Fear - is the only darkness." - Master Po (TV Kung Fu)

"I am the way, the truth and the life..." - Rabbi

(Many interpret this to mean Jesus is the door. He is neither the literal or figurative door.
He is simply showing the way!)


Many times I have been criticized for my use of the word "truth", not because I am wrong, but because my detractor can not see the truth in my words.


"Having eyes, see ye not? and having ears, hear ye not? and do ye not remember?" - Rabbi

"Waking-Up is unpleasant, you know." - Tony DeMello

"How much truth can you handle, before running away?" - Tony DeMello

Thinker2 wrote: If you're construing this in any way to mean I think I have the whole truth and nothing but the truth, you're a fool.

We have all been deceived, self included. I'm a Truth Seeker, nothing I write is intended to deceive you.

If you can show me my error respectfully, please do. Lets discuss it, rather than have a pissing contest.


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Don\'t FIX anything, Wake-Up, Grow-Up, and Energize Peace!
1. Wake-Up: Recognize the deception; discover your contribution
2. Grow-Up: Be responsible; stop deceiving yourself and others
3. Energize Peace: Apply your energy to loving and peaceful pursuits

Everything is FIXED by virtue of Waking-Up!
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2 years 8 months ago - 2 years 7 months ago #139637 by Thinker2
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As Moderator

You are free to express yourself on this Forum and so is everyone else. However, when your lack of communication skills deteriorates into insults; that is when moderators step in, to prevent the cancer of your incompetents from spreading.

I have a tendency to delete posts:
Personal Attacks (targeting the author, rather than the content of the post)
Insulting the author (see Personal Attacks)
Profanity (keep it clean, I see BS and WTF more as an exclamation than an attack)
Off Topic (Please stay on topic, or start a new Thread)


Please be respectful...


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1. Wake-Up: Recognize the deception; discover your contribution
2. Grow-Up: Be responsible; stop deceiving yourself and others
3. Energize Peace: Apply your energy to loving and peaceful pursuits

Everything is FIXED by virtue of Waking-Up!
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2 years 4 months ago - 2 years 4 months ago #141096 by Thinker2
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The Scorpion and the Frog

Synopsis:
A scorpion asks a frog to carry it across a river. The frog hesitates, afraid of being stung, but the scorpion argues that if it did so, they would both drown. Considering this, the frog agrees, but midway across the river the scorpion does indeed sting the frog, dooming them both. When the frog asks the scorpion why, the scorpion replies that it was in its nature to do so.

The fable is used to illustrate that fundamentally vicious natures cannot change.
(T2 wrote: This interpretation is by one who does not see; scorpions can not change, but people can.)

Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion_and_the_Frog



The point of Parables and fables like this one is to allow the reader(s) to have more than one interpretation:

As a Victim the reader identifies with the Frog.

As a Taker (criminal) the reader identifies with the Scorpion.

As a Responsible man, I recognize I do not want to be the scorpion or frog and DECLINE to CONTRACT with Scorpions (takers) or Frogs (victims).

This illustrates why the Rabbi Carpenter spoke in Parables, the Pharisees (takers) had their interpretation, the Slaves (victims) had their interpretation, and the Disciples (responsible) had their interpretation.

(By "Slaves" I am referring to the Jewish people who were slaves of the Roman Occupation (none Roman Citizens are Roman Slaves). All Civil Law including Roman Civil Law CONDONES slavery and other atrocities (Cruel and Unusual Punishment).


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Don\'t FIX anything, Wake-Up, Grow-Up, and Energize Peace!
1. Wake-Up: Recognize the deception; discover your contribution
2. Grow-Up: Be responsible; stop deceiving yourself and others
3. Energize Peace: Apply your energy to loving and peaceful pursuits

Everything is FIXED by virtue of Waking-Up!
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